I just lost my whole comment. Aaaah. the sucks. Well. I guess I have to start all over again?

The problem with us Sharon, is that we don't communicate very well. You think that I don't recognize one of your points, that I dont agree. But it happens that I actually do that. But I, in lack of more time, try to stick to what we do not agree upon. Yes, if you define europe as being just France, Germany and Spain, that does maybe create a impression of a racist europe. But when I said that europeans in general are no more, or no less racist then any america (north), i based that on my impression of the whole of europe. I do agree that the people at the receiving end is the once that have to listen to our crap, and therefor the once that one should first listen to. I do not disagree. We clear on this now?

When I put forward my theory about jobs being so important, that i do think they are, i do not think that this is the only explonation for the situation in france. but i do think it's very important. And you ask why integration of none etnical frence has been so difficault when it seems to be no problem to give white imigrents work, I will say this : In the last 40 years, since that start of the liberation of the french colonies, there has been a massiv and dominant imigration from these countries, first and formost because these people has french passports. The imigration from other western countries however, are constant and insignificant in comparison. In times of lack of jobs, of course there will be the situation that etnic french has easier access to jobs, then new arrivals (or second generation). This has to do with schooling, history, and of course a small amount of favour between same raced people. And, if, such there is in France today, even the whites cant get a job, the imigrents get the blame. Even my french friends have problem getting a job. This doesnt explain it all, but some of it. So laugh as much as you want :)

Today my work actually hired a imigrant. And I'm very please. in norway the situation is that if to people, one a of foreign nationality and a norwegian are both equaly quallified for the work, the goverment will have to hire the foreigner. Many dont agree with this, but to that I say, if it hadn't been for the laws giving women bigger rights, women would never be in majority in the norwegian cabinett.

And, because I felt I had to write this sharon, and because erazed my first comment, we will have to wait until tomorrow with the next video :)

Our birthrate isnt high enough, had hasnt been suficiant the last 20 years. So in some years from now there will not be enough people to replace those who are working now. This is more or less a commen thing all around europe. We do get a lot of workers from east-european countries, but we do still need more permant members. So we should defininitly take in more. But that was what I meant with a lack of people ;) Maybe you should move ? :O) Which city do you live in? The weather isnt to bad, as long as you dont live to far north ;)

hehe :) I dont comment on everything you said because I just don't have the time to write about everything. I'm really sorry about that. So, I didn't ignore your points, I just made a few remarks that I found worth expressing.
And on this topic Bruce, we will never agree I think :O)

Sharon, sorry to break it to you, but the british are europeans. but as I also did try to express, I know that there is a problem in some countries, expecially Spain. And yes, I know several people living in Germany :) Do you ? And the reason I didnt comment on all your remarks, as the situation in France, is that I do agree that they have a problem with integrating young muslim people into their socity, something we have seen the last years. However, that can be in large part explained with the fact that France doesn't even have jobs for the etnic french. "I life without perpuse, is not worth living". In all times lack of jobs has been a problem in any socity. As it is in many italien countries. In norway we have a lack of people, so maybe we accept them easier?


Now I really have to get of to work :O)

Oh dear, hehe. I turned on mye computer this morning and all these comments were here. I really dont know where to begin you guys. I see that I enough material to make a completly new film about the same topics which we now have been discussing. I really do think you have lot of good arguments to support your position. However, that does not mean that I agree with all what has been said. But I think that if I maybe these discussions adujust or maybe expand my opinions in just a tiny way, it's all been worth it.

There are a few things I would like to say:

- If we are going to make a change in the use of, f. eks car transportation, we have dramaticly change the rules of the game. We would have to increase the investments in collectiv transportation by a 100. In the same pase that this is done, the cost of using a car should increase so much that people are, if not forced, then at least pressured into using this option. This will in turn force the car industri to make cars that do not emitt CO2. This can be applied to other fields as well. A slight change in public awernes, increased funding and the use of the law.

One does say that it's never to late to change, but it's allways smart to do it before it's allready to late.


And Eanna, I often think that the world might be directing it's own demise. That is then I thank god for the fact that people have kids and believe in god and a life after this. Because this is when our support system should kick in. It's now that people should be uniting. I myself want change, of course no because I believe in karma or that sort of thing, but just becuase it would be nice to know that at least, the world did not go under on my watch.


"The USA can spend trillions of dollars to help people but it won't make radical Islam and international terrorism go away." Thats our claim Bruce, and you are right to have it, but havent we now at least tryed bombing our way out of this situation? it's it time to try another approach ? We talk to badly about radical islam that we must have fotgoten that it's not more that a few hundreds of years ago, since christianity was radical in so many ways. What changed? People got a better life. This was of course very simplefied by me now, but I think much of the explanation lies in the develepment of the socity we live in. And the truth is that much of the need we see in the world is caused my us, the europeans and the settlers in the new world, with colonialisme and greed. If that had happened to me or you, I would think that we would be pissed of as well.


Sharon :) one small comment, I agree, there is racisme in europe, but you cant say that there is more in europe because of people at fotball matches. It's mostly a nasty form of patrioisme. It's all about the insanity of the game. Of course, as in the society in general, there are people at matches who really means it. But mostly these are idiots who in the days before the match beat up fans from the other team. So, I think that says a lot about these people.
You can go to a fotball-match in england and not hear it at all. There are so many big differences between people in europe, so it's allmost impossible to make a general statement about it. And finally, I know a lot of german people, and I dont think there is a people in the world that are more conserned about this problem than them. I start to worry the day the day Das Spiegel stops writing about it.

But in what way do you think that education will impact once view on other races?

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I did see a few errors in my english here, but I dont have time to correct them I'm afraid. And, I just started work today, so I don't know when I'll be able to upload the next video, but hopefully on wednesday. It's going to be about the upcomming duel between Obama and McCain. ..And Nader;) hehe.

Cheers

I agree with you Eanna. It does have a lot to do with actually seeing the big picture. I'm pretty sure that there are many politicans in many countries around the world which wants to put more money into building a better world for everyone. But as we all know, the collektiv conscioun of a whole nation is needed to start the journey down that path. Lets just get it out of the way, people don't sacrifice anything if they don't have to or see the benefith of doing so. So, how do we make a average person in Oregan U.S to give up something to help someone els? Who descides whetheror not we should do it at all? Should we have high prices on petrol to make people stop using their car as much? If a majority of a nations inhabitants doesn't want to inplement such solutions, should we then abandon them?


And yes Eanna, hehe, I like harry potter;) Actually using my break now to read the last book once more.