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Accountability for Torture
midknight
March 1, 2009
3:06 PM PST
I would like few minutes with that cowered excuse of a man,just by my self,I think that if he does not get a right punishment for it, and that, to me, is simply jail time and no more representing the people no more police work ever,hope my God and Goddess takes care of it
Grassroots
March 1, 2009
12:23 PM PST
VIDEO:TEENAGE GIRL ATTACKED IN JAIL CELL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OwNRy7ubwU
Watch carefully.
All she does is toss off her shoe. She is a teenage GIRL! She's probabaly pi****.
But would you say she was a THREAT TO THESE TWO ARMED OFFICERS of "the Rule of Constitutional Law"?
This video plainly shows TWO adult males,uniformed AND FULLY ARMED,causing delibarate GRIEVOUS BODILY HARM/ASSAULT on an UNARMED,small-framed 15 year old girl,who is ALREADY in "PROTECTIVE CUSTODY".
The main brute,exerts ALL his MALE strength,to slam her to the wall/floor.
He SITS ON HER,TO PIN HER DOWN.
PUNCHES HER IN THE HEAD/FACE.
AND YANKS HER UP BY HER HAIR
The other OFFICE(CADET),aids and abets him,BY HOLDING HER LEFT ARM,whilst she is pinned to the floor.
The main brute ALREADY has a professional record of brutality(unconvicted).
The only THING he DIDN'T do was RAPE her.
If this was YOUR daughter,HOW WOULD YOU FEEL about these 'men'?
This is tantamount to TORTURE.
They MUST be held accountable.
Or the next victim could be YOUR DAUGHTER/SON.

Grassroots
March 1, 2009
12:23 PM PST
VIDEO:TEENAGE GIRL ATTACKED IN JAIL CELL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OwNRy7ubwU
Watch carefully.
All she does is toss off her shoe. She is a teenage GIRL! She's probabaly pi****.
But would you say she was a THREAT TO THESE TWO ARMED OFFICERS of "the Rule of Constitutional Law"?
This video plainly shows TWO adult males,uniformed AND FULLY ARMED,causing delibarate GRIEVOUS BODILY HARM/ASSAULT on an UNARMED,small-framed 15 year old girl,who is ALREADY in "PROTECTIVE CUSTODY".
The main brute,exerts ALL his MALE strength,to slam her to the wall/floor.
He SITS ON HER,TO PIN HER DOWN.
PUNCHES HER IN THE HEAD/FACE.
AND YANKS HER UP BY HER HAIR
The other OFFICE(CADET),aids and abets him,BY HOLDING HER LEFT ARM,whilst she is pinned to the floor.
The main brute ALREADY has a professional record of brutality(unconvicted).
The only THING he DIDN'T do was RAPE her.
If this was YOUR daughter,HOW WOULD YOU FEEL about these 'men'?
This is tantamount to TORTURE.
They MUST be held accountable.
Or the next victim could be YOUR DAUGHTER/SON.

midknight
March 1, 2009
2:39 AM PST
emotional abuse,neglect can create very deep scars,because insecurity makes you act in ways that you stop liking your self ,I wish no hart to feel it,add to this the fear of death over and over,how long do you stay numb for?I had enough pain on my own thank you i don t need to try everithyng my self to get it I am evolved in that empathy is very important in this moment on this earth but some people have the arrogance to think that their pain is 'the pain' and nobody else s past or present counts,just great
midknight
March 1, 2009
12:28 AM PST
why are always the little ones the first to fall? they get pushed
let s see how long before they reach top guns,I see a slug with a heavy weigh ooooouuuuuuccccccchhhhh!!!













Grassroots
February 28, 2009
3:30 PM PST
And talking of BULLIES....
The Israelis can get as angry as they want with this weeks WORLD-WIDE anti-Israeli apartheid protests.
World War 2 is LONG GONE NOW. OVER!!!
They have to remember WHO IS THE present day BULLY/RACIST HERE.
Israel likes being the BULLY.
They revel in it.
But they don't want to accept the blame for it.
They can shout out"Anti-Semitism,Anti-Semitism" all they like.
That doesn't wash ANY MORE. That's a MOOT argument.
Because WE CAN JUST SHOUT BACK,"Anti-Gentilism,Anti-Gentilism"
Quid Pro Quo!!!!
And they can skulk off back to their blockades/checkpoints/tanks/chemical warfare/nuclear warheads and HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES.
Why are Jewish people getting harassed?
Well, they can ASK ISRAEL.They are the BULLIES.

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/02/28/campus-jews-being-bullied/

Peace,Salaam,Shalom.
Grassroots
February 28, 2009
8:49 AM PST
Like you say DF,a persons religion/faith should make no difference to their HUMAN-NESS,humanity,compassion and soul.
We are all just transcient,finite beings,passing through this experience,which is ALSO transcient and ever changing,with OR without our input.
We all shed the same red blood,all feel inner joy and deep pain equally.
And all are FALLIBLE,but if we follow good conscience and common sense in concentrating on UNITING instead of dividing,then we,as human beings CAN BE WONDERFUL TOO.
Because we all live on this beautiful big spinning ball,in a magnificent universe,and LITERALLY have nowhere else TO GO in our human life(earth is ALL we have so far),we can't afford to squander and abuse what we have or those with which we HAVE to share it equally. We are surrounded by nature,and NEVER really learn from it.
We assume we OWN it,but NATURE OWNS US.
It can take us or LEAVE us and still go on.
But we cannot do without IT!
But,it's our moral/ethical/legal DUTY too,to minimise EVIL and keep it in its filthy HOLE in the ground,and not let it take control the majority of mankind which is GOOD,caring and giving.
Evil is a necessary essential to provide a balance,and always remind us of what we HAVE TO KEEP FROM SPREADING further,and consuming the GOOD.That's common sense.
It is our DUTY to hold those who would commit harmful,painful acts,accountable and thereby provide a deterrant,to show those who would use and abuse that they will NOT GET AWAY WITH IT.
I have no sympathy or patience,for supposedly 'STRONG'entities inflicting suffering on WEAKER ones.
There is NO TYPE of justification for that.
Excuses? Yes!
But NO VALID justification.
Maybe that's why I always loathed bullies when I was a kid.LOL!
Because they actually shamed and embarrassed themselves and showed themselves to be BIGGER cowards than those they picked on.
Like many of the despots/tyrannts in history whose main weapon is BRUTALITY.
Take away their sponsors,money and weapons and you have nothing but a paltry bag of wobbly,sticky jello on the floor.
But that's the point isn't it?
Most of these BULLIES are actually very jealous of something their VICTIM has,that they do NOT.
LOL! I only had to tackle ONE "BULLY" at school.He was twice my size,and an ugly moronic brute with a brain the size of his little toe,but he was jealous of my boxing skills(learned from MY father)and my maths and chemistry scores lol!
He bugged me for days,like an itch you can't scratch,and I tried to ignore him until he started on a good buddy of mine,who DIDN'T box.
Well,that was IT for me. Enough!
He had to be held accountable,for his brutality.
One left jab and a right upper cut and he hit the floor,with a red-nose and blackening eye,and a dropped mouth! lol!
He never came near me OR MY friends again.
Alas,just went on to beat up his wife later and drive his kids away from home, and ended up in prison,HELD ACCOUNTABLE AGAIN for his bad actions,and no-one to blame BUT himself.
You can apply that to ONE individual OR a NATION/STATE.
A bully is a bully and BAD!
There is NO excuse,or rationale for that except a core of cowardly,selfish,diseased evil and dark tunnel-vision in which there is NO LIGHT.
The only thing to do with a bully,is shame,oust them and hold them accountable.
I have no sympathy/time for those who abuse/use their faith(which is supposed to be a deep personal,private,spiritual thing)and turning it into a POLITICAL weapon
of mass public hate and using it as an excuse to shed blood.

midknight
February 27, 2009
9:40 PM PST
I was present,I am not going by other people experience but from what I witness with out really seeing all the dots but let s face it why would you invoke Krishna if not for a great back up,don t worry I know many that are not self serving,I am not pointing fingers I am explaining why is a pleasure to have in this discussion group,I think...just joking I forgot England different sense of humor as well,hope I did not bruise anybody, if yes it was not my intention Blessed Be White Light
darkforrest
February 27, 2009
9:10 PM PST
Hey Midnight, I think you may have got the wrong idea about true Wiccans, none of us are for war, torture or mayhem. True Wiccans believe that we can achieve a balance in the World if we work together & respect nature. The natural World is our life.

Blessed Be





midknight
February 27, 2009
8:53 PM PST
nice meeting you,I am glad you are not screaming for war as some Wicca s are, is hard to draw the line between taking out your frustration ,informing ,to ,total anger,hate,we need more voices welcome,we need more peace white light
darkforrest
February 27, 2009
8:36 PM PST
As a Brit born in 1943 & an Americanized citizen as of the 1960's I am apalled by the history of our countries. There has been too much favoratism paid due to regrets for our terrible history in some instances & not enough in others. It is time to recognise that we have all made mistakes & that we need to try now to work together to bring about a better result for all. Please don't let the fanatics of the World prevail.

I am neither Christian, Moslem or any other religion. I am Wiccan & believe that we all belong to the World Order & need to work together. We may pursue different paths,but we all end up in the same place.
Grassroots
February 27, 2009
6:37 PM PST
VIDEO(23 MINS) "Focus on Gaza"/A time of War.
Israel needs to held ACCOUNTABLE for all these BLATANT documented WAR CRIMES. Watch carefully,and never forget.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKzIxXkFvVE
Peace,Salaam,Shalom.
Grassroots
February 27, 2009
5:01 PM PST
Salaam Kamal! Yes! I agree with you. The ONLY people who should FEAR ACCOUNTABILITY,are those who have something TERRIBLE to hide.
Nothing to hide MEANS nothing to fear.
Barack Obama PROMISED transparency and truth.
That means ACROSS the board.
And my fellow Americans,generally,have NO idea about what terrible,inhuman things are being done in America's name by some of our forces(regrettably) and PROXY forces and DEFINATELY need to wake up to the facts,to make sure it STOPS and never happens again.
Not even the German Army,in WW2,treated their(including me)PRISONERS the way the Israelis treat UNARMED civilians/POW's in Palestine/Lebanon.
We were ALWAYS treated respectfully,fed and watered well,given all our hygiene stocks and bedding,and ALL OUR Red Cross relief parcels.
And as POW's we ALWAYS continued to RESIST and seek freedom,because it was OUR DUTY,and RIGHT to resist.
Most international military troops are disgusted by the Israeli IDF/IOF,and see them as nothing less than a LAWLESS MOB of trigger-happy morons,who have lost all essence of honor,code of conduct,and humanity.
Uniformed men who shoot UNARMED CIVILIAN men,women and children in the HEAD,BACK,LEGS ETC,either to MAIM or kill,are not "soldiers".
They are WAR CRIMINALS. Period!
Keep your head,and HOPE up Kamal. You will return to a United State of PALESTINE,and the spirits of your ancestors will SING through the NEW olive trees.
Peace,Salaam,Shalom.
kamalchassan
February 27, 2009
4:08 PM PST
Hello,
My name is Kamal Hassan,a Palestinian refugee, was born in Lebanon, because of Israeli aggressions and expulssions of my family and many others in 1948.
Accountability is the biggest deturant to abuse and genocide.With out accountabilty the aggressors have no remorse or nothing to fear. Israel holds 11 thousand Palestinian political presoners,the Israelis are masters when it gets to torture.The Americans take lessons from the Israelis.So a big YES to accountability for Torture,Abuse,Genocide etc.
Kamal Hassan,
Palestinian Peace Activist.
Grassroots
February 27, 2009
4:04 PM PST
"The country is owed an account of what happened...." UK MP Crispin Blunt.
You are bloody right old boy!
So are AMERICAN CITIZENS.And the families of those HUMAN BEINGS who 'DIED' in custody are OWED an explanation TOO,and REPARATIONS.
Now it's NOT surprising that ALL of a sudden the Brit parliament RECALLS,that we "WERE" involved in rendition and TORTURE(YES! we know that too,guys)when they realise that DOCUMENTED facts and other s*** is about to hit the High Courts.
Crispin and your US counterparts,WE KNOW that the US and UK and Morocco,Syria,Pakistan,Jordan,Afghanistan were ALL involved in TORTURE of UNCHARGED INDEFINATELY DETAINED "enemy combatants"(ludicrous title when you have NO PROOF that they are actually "enemies".
Just get it ALL out in the OPEN for the public to see,as is their right.
Investigate.Defend and Prosecute,in an open court.Exercise the JUST punishment and close the books and MOVE ON.
Without ACCOUNTABILITY there is NO DETERRENT to those who would DO IT AGAIN.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/we-did-hand-over-terror-suspects-for-rendition-hutton-admits-1633397.html