What a terrible mess our Bush 'corporate' administration and the CIA made of this whole shabang!
Put the pieces of America back in place Mr. President Barack Hussein Obama,and put the real WAR CRIMINALS where they belong!
Obama seems keen to close Gitmo!
What is he going to do with the GITMO's on US SOIL?
Secret CMU's(prisons) are housing detainees indefinately,without Constitutional rights and rule of law due process.
70 PER CENT of the detainees ARE MUSLIMS(INCLUDING US CITIZENS)
Right now in Israel,the indefinate detention units(no charges or rights applied) hold TWELVE THOUSAND detainees,just FOR BEING Arab Muslim/Christian who defend their freedoms and rights and dissent against bad government.
Eric Holder and Obama MUST CLOSE THESE Israeli-type secret prisons ON US SOIL.
Don't shame the USA any more than it has been shamed already Barack!
DO THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT THING!
We don't want 'GOTMO'S ANYWHERE,ANY MORE,ANY HOW! http://www.democracynow.org/2009/6/25/exclusive_animal_rights_activist_jailed_at
VIDEO:ARRESTED FOR ASKING A POLICE OFFICER FOR HIS BADGE NUMBER:
This is not only happening in the UK,but is getting more and more common here in the USA now.
And it's the POLICE who are actually breaking the law here(whether UK or USA).
Because by law,any Federal or Govt employed police personnel are REQUIRED TO DISPLAY,OR GIVE VERBALLY WHEN REQUESTED,their tax-payer-paid employment number/ID.
aND TO OPENLY DISPLAY THEIR PUBLIC SERVANT BADGES.
These police public-servants were FULLY ARMED and protected.
The public(who they are servants to)are/were NOT!
Notice how many big bodied police-guys physically restrain the WOMAN,and she is non-offensive to them.
It the POLICE who are BREAKING THE LAW.
US COP GETS 40 MONTHS FOR BEATING WHEELCHAIR MAN. http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/06/12/ill-cop-sentenced-for-beating-wheelchair-man/
Good! and I hope he does every SINGLE day of that sentence.
We have to get ALL our US Police Force back to HONORING and obeying the LAW,rather than USURPING the law,just like our Congress,White House and DoD and DoJ have been doing under Bush/Cheney,before the WHOLE nation goes to hell!
VIDEO:MAN WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA BEATEN UP BY POLICE THUG.
The video says it all.
He wasn't resisting any arrest and the police thug just attacked him.
'Officer' Rios should be FIRED,and the female Officer too,for not protecting the civilian from police brutality.
DISGRACEFUL!
Fort Campbell shuts down for 3 day anti-suicide event.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/05/27/kentucky.army.suicide/index.html
When you see SO MANY troops committing suicide,you know that they are either PUMPED with so many drugs/vaccines/chemical toxins that they can't think rationally.
Or,their consciences are telling them that something is terribly wrong with GOOD MEN being forced to feel like BAD MEN,for LYING corporate CEO's and CORRUPT Govt bovine-excrement orators!
The root cause of all this is how the Government failed the Nation before and after 9/11.
How can we expect our police force to follow the law when THEY themselves see the Government,at the highest levels,dissolving into LAWLESSNESS?
That's what we get for aloowing corporate CEO's to run our GOVERNMENT,Intelligence,and MILITARY combined. It's total chaos!
Who needs anarchy on the streets when it starts in the White House and Congress?
Ever since Mr.attention-deficit 'Arbusto' Bush,gave Tenet(CIA)and Black(CTC)and the FBI guys carte blanche to run the military,secret services and the DOMESTIC POLICE,the whole sysytem of legal limits and accountablility has CRUMBLED into lawlessness,ergo vigilante-ism.
If our Government and Supreme Court no longer uphold the Constitution,rule of law and due process,WHY SHOULD THE THUGS dressed up as 'enforcers of the law'?
Because WHAT LAW is there left?
WHO is setting the standards?
Marking up the accountability and penalty?
No-ONE!
It's all filtering down into CHAOS because our Government,since Bush,Clinton and Bush,failed before,and after 9/11,to protect the structure of American Constutional Governance and legislature,through panic,and has been in chaos ever since.
They blamed it ALL on 9/11,which is the VERY thing they could have actually AVOIDED if they had been on their toes and organised as ONE GOVERNMENT.
Especially as they had secret service info(CIA,CTC,FBI,MI5-6 etc) and evidence a YEAR before 9/11 happened,that something BIG was going down,and after Jan 2001 actually knew some of the attackers,what they were doing and who they were talking to on phones etc.
They lost the values,morals and courage,not to mention principles to stand up for values and the rule of law and DUE PROCESS.
So, if the guys at the top are fumbling around in utter chaos,like headless chickens,how can we expect the small fry law enforcers on the street level to follow what the top have shredded and dumped?
The Government FAILED,PANICKED,LOST CONTROL after 9/11,of the Constitutional structure of the rule of law/due process and WHAM,the whole thing has crumbled since then.
The other side being that the millions of ordinary Americans are now out of home,health,education,jobs and TRUST in their leaders so more unrest is arising.
To cope with that they have to increase the quantity of 'law enforcers' on the street,but they are sacrifing intelligent QUALITY of law enforcers for QUANTITY of whatever they can drag off the unemployment lines that has muscle and no brain.
There is no vetting for quality now.Just stick a badge on a lump of muscle and set it loose.
Same in the Army,God help it!
And you wait and see what happens when Obama brings in the DRAFT,if he continues to follow this ludricrous military occupation/invasion on 3 or 4 foreign fronts.
It's already mayhem enough,here AND abroad.
And he AIN'T finished yet.More's the pity!
Our American Government failed us BIG TIME.
Now the symptoms are apparent on the street and getting worse.
Police brutality, as shown on many vidio's, should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. The fact that many Police Departments, by default, endorse this type of behavior is unconsionable.
This type of behavior is not warrented in a free society. I realise that police officers have a very difficult job & put their lives on the line everyday, but that does not give them the right to beat a person who is not able to protect themselves & is offering no resistance.
I am afraid that this nations Police Force is dissolving into a vigilanti type thing.
I want to support my local police department, but I am extremely disturbed by the actions of other police departments. How can we be sure that our police departmnent is actually following the law?
KBR WAS PAID 83 MILLION TO ELECTROCUTE US TROOPS AND EMPLOYEES.
For all KBR cared about the quality of work/living conditions of troops and civilian employee contractors THEY MAY well be charged with delibarate homicide,because the work was DELIBARATELY upstandard to cut costs and INCREASE profits at the EXPENSE of American's lives.
And this is the SAME company who covered up the fact that it's US female employees were being GANG-RAPED and abused/harrassed by 'fellow' American employees,and locked away for 3 days in STORAGE CONTAINERS so she couldn't report it(probabaly hoping she would DIE).
KBR= Kill,Burn,Rape.
KBR,like Blackwater,Dyncorp etc SHOULD be blacklisted from ANY GOVERNMENT/Pentagon contracts.
They are WAR-PROFITEERS,CROOKS,MURDERERS and TRIGGER-HAPPY THUGS. http://rebelreports.com/post/110485354/breaking-kbr-was-paid-83-million-in-bonuses-for-work
OBAMA STILL BACKING THUGGISH GITMO "GOON SQUADS",pretending to be sovereign troops
(Of whatever Nation).
Mr "change we can believe in" Obama,STILL doesn't do anything about the torturers in GITMO,and with every face smeared with faeces,every groin kicked by a military boot,every piece of toilet paper sprayed with pepper-spray,every human indignity and humiliation inflicted, ANTI-Americanism GROWS.
And who's fault is that?
Obama's.
You want Anti-AMERICANISM TO REDUCE?
STOP being so UNAMERICAN and UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
The world is watching you Obama.
You promised the whole f****** world!
There is NO EXCUSE for not closing this hellhole IMMEDIATELY and transferring ALL detainees to the US Federal open Court due process,to be tried by CIVILIAN COURTS.
No excuse except the one where the Government have SO MANY ILLEGAL actions to hide.
And I doubt that ANY Americans would be surprised by those ANY MORE.
Our trust in our Government died A LONG TIME AGO,with the revelations of the HARD,COLD truth.
OUR GOVERNMENT TORTURES.
And emulates those that Americans and our culture despises THE MOST.
Fascist,imperialist,racist DICTATORS.
I don't think we (the USA) should "torture" for several reasons:
1-If you inflict enough pain on somebody, eventually they will say anything you want to make it stop.
2-For the folks who tortured people 184 times; did they think after the 183rd time things would be different? what about the 151st time, or 76th time?
3-The prisoners have been in there for several years, what could they possibly know after all this time that would be of use?
4-It leaves our soldiers vulnerable to torture (which I'll address in a bit).
5-It makes the USA look very bad in the eyes of the world and only fans the flames of hatred of younger muslim generations towards the west.
That being said, I think the bar for what's considered torture has been lowered to ridiculous levels. Playing Abba music 24/7 isn't "torture" (at least in the context here, but that's another story). Bad tasting, low-variety foods isn't torture, as long as it's nutritious enough to sustain a healthy human, it's good enough. I don't want to hear about prisoners complaining that their lamb-chops are too well done or that their strawberry's are out of season. I believe that physical torture should be out of practice but methods of psychological "torture" aren't really torture at all. For example, solitary confinement is not torture, neither is sleep depravation by means of altering their environment (i.e. music, lights). Hitting somebody in the head with a pole every ten minutes so they can't sleep would be torture. Long hours of questioning under the hot lamp is not torture. Waterboarding has gotten so much attention because it falls near the line of physical and psychological torture. You make a person feel like they are drowning/dying but they aren't being drowned or killed. So on one hand, you are making them think of the impending doom by physically punishing them. I don't really see the point in this which is why I don't think waterboarding is right or particularly useful (see points 2 and 3). Whether or not they should or shouldn't be there in the first place needs to be looked at on an individual basis. Prisoners with evidence against them of crimes they've commited should be tried in court and punished accordingly.
Now the other side, the extremist muslims also torture yet they don't get any of the heat that the USA gets. They post videos of our citizens getting beheaded alive, with a pocket-knife and you don't hear anything about it other than a news headline on MSNBC's homepage for the day. They execute people at will, and also target non-military personel (journalists, photographers, etc). They drag bodies through the streets and burn people alive. These things are much worse than waterboarding. If you make the argument that you want to hold the USA to a higher standard then you can't be against the USA "policing" Iraq until they are self-sustaining. If you want to hold everybody to the same standards of torture then more pressure needs to be put on the extremist muslims who openly torture military and civilians alike. Thoughts?