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SOUTH OSSETIA UNDER FIRE FROM GEORGIAN TERRITORY
Grassroots
August 25, 2009
3:30 PM PDT
Oh P/A:You really need to study actual history.
For 200 years Iran has not attacked any other nation with its sovereign forces.
Only DEFENDED itself from outside attacks.
Oh my goodness,you really are in denial about Israel.
"Israel has never threatened Iran or any other country"? LOL.
That's an amazingly stupid statement PA,I'm quite stunned.
Unless,you meant it as a joke,of course.

That's all Israel has EVER done since it was created post WW2 by the allied super-powers.
Attack!Attack!Attack!
Right from when the Brits were still there in PALESTINE with the Arabs under the mandate.The very first terrorist groups there were Israeli ones.Most who are still alive are in the Knesset,or in bed in a coma(Sharon).
Israel policy is based on pre-emption,brutality and offensive disproportionality.
Not defensive.
Even the fire-crackers,rockets whatever,that are fired on Israel,from within or without,are ALWAYS retaliatory for Israels offensive outward brutality and collective punishment.
That's a fact,not a myth!
All recorded.Look it up.
Israel only survives by inflicting pre-emptive death and destruction on its neighbours.
But hey,I can leave all that research of history to you,I've done it already,since WW2.
I doubt that you will learn further though,because you've already made up your mind,probably.
But to learn about Israel,since its formal conception in 1947-8,and all its initial terrorism(internally)wars,attacks and belligerence on the Near/Middle East since then,you have the worlds research at your fingertips.
If you are willing to learn.
And if you are Persian American,as is your user name,and perhaps bi/tri-lingual,I am stunned that you still wrongly translate the statement made by Ahmadinejad about "wiping Israel off the map".
Tut! Tut! You know he didn't say that,literally!
Go and read/listen to the actual speech again(not from an American newspaper).
You should know that that translation of his speech was totally wrong and used misleadingly but conveniently(politically),lol.
In fact the gist of the speech was that Israel will actually SELF-DESTRUCT.

And,the only reason Israel hasn't attacked anyone post WW2,with a large nuke,so far,even with its ILLEGAL nuclear,chemical,bio-weapons stock is because that WOULD INFURIATE the US people and the Govt/Pentagon and Israel cannot survive without American money,weapons and sympathy.
And PA, don't forget that the nuclear bombs dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima were designed by European-Jewish-Zionist nuclear scientists,who previously worked for Hitler but switched sides with great 'persuasions' and 'promises'to the USA.
Read it up!
They came out to the States during WW2,we Americans funded them and gave them the military and research facilities to build,launch,test then drop on the Japs.
Those same scientists either stayed in the USA after WW2 or went to the new Israel to help create the illegal DIMONA nuclear-weapon proliferation plant(against NNPT laws).
Israel is an insolvent,rogue-nuclear,natural-resource-drained failed state.
And,it HAS attacked everyone in the region(Egypt,Jordan,Iran,Syria,Lebanon)for SIXTY++ years already,with EVERY other type of weapon,from land,sea and air, including recent hi-tech new miniature ILLEGAL tungsten-alloy,fission weapons and chemical weapons.It has also tested miniature nukes in Syria and dropped hundreds of thousands of depleted uranium/cluster-bombs on Lebanon(last time).
All within the last SIXTY TWO years.

Israel does want to nuke Iran,while Iran is not a US puppet regime,but without the go-ahead nod from the White House,it would LOSE the USA as a fiscal and weapon backer and the USA would be left picking up the dirt,mopping up the blood and dealing with Russia,N.Korea,China and the Central-Asian Stans/caucuses that are not controlled by US tin-pot dictators. All these would retaliate.
And don't forget that Israel NEEDS IRAN!
They both have BILLIONS invested in the Eurasian parallel oil/gas pipelines,and both have MUCH needed,essential relations with Turkey,and now Iraqi Arabs and Kurds.
And,America is buried in deep foreign-relations Doo-Doo right now,and stretched to breaking-point with illegal occupations,invasions and LOOTING campaigns in Central Asia and Iraq and a pending economic depression.
Believe me PA,Israel is busting to attack either Iran or Lebanon next.
But without a believable false-flag attack or permission from the USA 'coffers' IT CAN'T.
Nothing to do with innocent,generous philanthropy,lol.
Just Logistics.


PersianAmerican
August 25, 2009
7:05 AM PDT
You are so suspicious of Israel and the US (your own country!). Do you think the world would be a better place if it were dominated by the likes of Russia, China, Iran and North Korea? Because that's the alternative.

Iran has said it would "DEFEND ITSELF"? Not quite. The mad mullahs of the IRI regime have said that Israel should be "wiped off the map", and they are building nuclear weapons, and have been supporting Hamas, Hezbollah and other terrorist groups actively engaged in war against Israel and other countries.

Israel is not the problem - Islam is. Israel never threatened Iran or any other country. All Israelis want is to live in peace in their little tiny homeland after their ancestors were murdered and chased all over the place for 2,000 years. Is that too much to ask? They don't want to conquer the world and impose their religion on everyone - Muslims want to do that. Israel has a huge nuclear arsenal for many decades now - if they wanted to attack Iran or any other country, they could've done so at any time, but they didn't. Doesn't that say anything to you?

thegardener
July 30, 2009
4:37 PM PDT
I wonder--is the US baiting Israel to start the war with Iran, so it won't seem that the US started it ? I hope Israel will go trough with it--it will bring about the main war that they all want anyway...
Grassroots
July 30, 2009
9:03 AM PDT
Now bear in mind that before Israel(or the USA) can militarily attack Iran,there have to be military battles disrupting the Iranian borders to STOP RUSSIAN weapons/assistance getting across in ground-based convoys.
Gates has just come back from Israel.
Biden has just come back from Georgia too(wonder what he's promised Saakashvilli,who the Georgian people have been trying to oust since Georgia attacked South Ossetia last time with the help of Israeli(Mossad& IDF) trained and armed Georgian troops)?
If Israel attack Iran,as far as I'm concerned Israel is ON ITS own.
And Iran has said it would DEFEND ITSELF from an Israeli OFFENSIVE,like so many times before.
Hope the Iranians keep their heads calm,unless they WANT a western-backed US/Israeli coup,which will REALLY piss off Russia,China who have good trading with Iran. Not to mention rile up the global Muslim world who are NOT controlled by the US AND Israel.
All because of that damn pipeline through Georgia all the way to Turkey!
http://www.russiatoday.ru/Top_News/2009-07-30/south-ossetia-shelled-georgia.html