I haven't yet seen "In the Name of the Victims," though I have seen Normal Finklestein on Democracy Now! at least on one occasion. I think I would like such a documentary, based on what has been said. However, despite my respect for those dissenting Jewish scholars, I must add that like all issues, it is never really possible to blame the "leaders" or the organizations by themselves, but only in context of a much bigger picture. That is, when any leaders fail -- as they often do -- whether it is the USA's, England's, the Catholic Church, whoever, it is also a reflection of the population as a whole to some degree. Like a scholar pointed out, who was interviewed for a BBC documentary on Nazi Germany, recent research into Germany's Nazi regime shows that the traditional idea that the German people were brainwashed from the "top" downward is largely fictional. There was just as much influence -- if not more -- from the "bottom-up" on the Nazi leaders.

I think that explains why things don't change on any fundamental level ANYWHERE, or at ANYTIME -- there has been no fundamental alteration in consciousness, at least on a mass scale. If there was, you would know it instantly. Intellectual debate would become a thing of amusement, and not something to excite the passions. In that sense, it is important to understand that being "good" isn't something that would come from effort to follow laws of nature or god etc. so much as comprehensive alteration of one's perception of himself and the universe. After all, when people get angry at each other, or fight, or go to war in any form or for any reason, it is easy to see that all the parties involved are pretty much on the same sick wavelength. And a sickness it is -- not (just) a "sin," in an absolute sense. (I saw that completely objectively, and not to be some sort of egomaniac.)

But (finally) to my main point:

Another documentary that Link TV has already shown before needs mention, I feel. And that is "The Ringworm Children," which -- as many here probably recall -- dealt with the bizarre radiation treatment that many Jewish immigrant children from specific areas like Morocco received for ringworm, and the consequent health problems they have suffered from since.

One particular item stood out in this documentary: that the Jewish leaders that approved or instigated this detrimental and discriminatory treatment did so because they felt that these particular children were "inferior" Jews, because they were not of European descent. This was based on their own belief in eugenics(!), a variation of which was the very pseudoscience that the Nazis embraced in their own racist mindset that led to so many Jewish (and other) deaths.

Unfortunately, since that documentary, I have yet to hear more details about this allegation. While it certainly is credible, it (as yet) hasn't been verified in any specifics -- at least as far as I'm aware of. And given the incendiary nature of the any criticism of the Israeli State, or its members throughout its history, I can't conceive of many people wanting to open up about it either.

Kevin Black's book, "The War Against the Weak," shows how many leading intellectuals and scientists, both of the left and right wing, and both primarily in the USA and England, were enthusiastic believers in eugenics at the beginning of the twentieth century. He explains how this was based on the very naive assumption that people were not really that much more complicated genetically than animals and plants, and that problems like crime, drug abuse, sickness etc. could simply be "bred out" of the species. That left wing icons like George Bernard Shaw or the famous plant breeder, Luther Burbank (who would ultimately become a disciple of amahansa Yogananda later) were of this eugenics persuasion is eye opening.

Unfortunately, it doesn't mention -- either pro or con -- the idea that there were Jewish leaders in Isreal that had their own belief in this pseudoscience.