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INTERNATIONAL VOICES CONDEMN ATTACK ON GAZAN CIVILIANS.
midknight
February 19, 2009
11:29 AM PST
I run in to this one You may have seen it alreadyhttp://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/general/2008/04/200861516595471
mizo
February 18, 2009
6:34 PM PST
Also regarding the anti- Semitic accusation we all the time hear about when ever anyone criticizes the zionist state, and beside the fact that a lot of the Ashkenazi Jews are from European roots and they are not "Semitics", the term Semitic is problematic in itself and by repeating wrong idea doesn't make it true or facts but this is what we are facing all the time; a well designed plan to keep confusing the obvious facts. Yes, both Arabs and Hebrews are "Semitics", but The root of the name came from the biblical story, the name of Sam, and now to call the whole groups, Canaanites, Babylonians, Aramaeans, Assyrians, Akkadians, Chaldeans, and later Hebrews, Arabs, and others, based on the believes and literature of the Hebrews whom were one of latest groups to arrive in the area, dose not make any sense. It would be a lot accurate to call it anti- Canaanism; if we want to be honest with history and archeology.

And here again Mr. Herzl:

The Mideast: A Century of Conflict

Part 1: Theodor Herzl and the First Zionist Congress

"Herzl...was completely secular and he had no particular attachment to the Jewish religion. As he conceived it, the idea of a Jewish state was a secular idea."
Avi Shlaim, author of The Iron Wall: Israel and the Arab World

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/mideast/history/history1.html

The Jewish State
Theodor Herzl
1896
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/6640/zion/judenstaadt.html
mizo
February 18, 2009
6:12 PM PST
Exactly gotta, THE SAME OLD PROPAGANDA!
Here is a reminder of Harzl PROPAGANDA. And read about your antisemitism from him and tell me what he thought about it.
"We have an important task before us. We have met here to lay the foundation-stone of the house that will some day shelter the Jewish people. . . We have to aim at securing legal, international guarantees for our work." (Israel: A History, p. 14)

"Were I to sum up the Basle Congress in a word-- which I shall GUARD AGAINST PRONOUNCING PUBLICLY-- it would be this: At Basle I founded the Jewish State. If I said this out loud today, I would be answered by universal laughter. Perhaps in five years, and certainly in fifty, everyone will know it." (Israel: A History, p. 15)

"[Such resettlement would fail] because when you want a great settlement, you must have a flag and an idea. You CANNOT make those things ONLY WITH MONEY. . . With money you CANNOT make a general movement of a great mass of people. You must give them an ideal. You must put into them the belief in their future, and then you will be able to take out the devotion of the hardest labour imaginable. [For example,] Argentina has a very GOOD SOIL and the conditions for agricultural labour are MUCH BETTER better than in Palestine, but in Palestine they work with enthusiasm and they succeed. I am not speaking of artificially made colonies, but self-helping colonies, which have that great national idea." (Israel: A History, p. 21)

"We must expropriate gently the private property on the state assigned to us. We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it employment in our country. The property owners will come over to our side. Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discretely and circumspectly. Let the owners of the immoveable property believe that they are cheating us, selling us things for more than they are worth. But we are not going to sell them anything back." (America And The Founding Of Israel, p. 49, Righteous Victims, p. 21-22)

"The Jewish state in Palestine, Theodor Herzl wrote, would be Europe's bulwark against Asia:

"We can be the vanguard of culture against barbarianism." (One Palestine Complete, p. 150)

Regarding antisemites, Theodor Herzl explained how it could benefit the Zionist enterprise, he wrote in his diary:

"The antisemites WILL BECOME our most loyal friends, the antisemites nations will become our allies." (One Palestine Complete, p. 47)..."
Grassroots
February 18, 2009
5:29 PM PST
So,these are all "clerical errors" eh gotta?
I call them MURDERED INNOCENT CHILDREN,with grieving mothers and fathers,brothers and sisters.
But if "clerical error" suits your soul,and BAD CONSCIENCE,then hey,go for it.

http://www.aztlan.net/gaza/gaza_massacre_of_children.php

Peace,Salaam,Shalom.
midknight
February 18, 2009
4:43 PM PST
I am glad to hear that it was not another criminal act,let s hope that at list for today nobody dies and let s hope that all this propaganda coming from all direction can share some light were is actually needed,thank You all for this
gottaloveit
February 18, 2009
4:35 PM PST
THE BEAT GOES ON, THE DRUMS KEEP PLAYING, THE SAME OLD PROPAGANDA!
Should we revisit the definition of Antisemitism:

Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism; also known as Judeophobia) is a term used to describe prejudice against or hostility towards people of Jewish lineage, which is ultimately rooted in, and based upon, an historical religio-cultural aversion to their core ancestral religious beliefs and way of life.

This prejudice or hostility is usually characterized by a combination of religious, racial, cultural and ethnic biases. While the term's etymology might suggest that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic peoples, it has been used exclusively to refer to hostility toward Jews since its initial usage.

And I will leave with this:

A clerical error led the UN to falsely accuse Israel of shelling one of its Gaza schools in the Jabalya refugee camp during Operation Cast Lead, the international organization admitted this week

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233304687916&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

So Grass knockoff the continued propaganda of bombing a school and killing children. It has been proven that it was all a LIE.
Grassroots
February 18, 2009
1:31 PM PST
"Defend your home",the one destroyed by a fully armed occupying ARMY/NAVY/AIR FORCE.
The same 'BRAVE,HONORABLE' "soldiers" who,when faced with women and children,leaving their homes,waving WHITE FLAGS,STILL CHOOSE to shoot the children "in the back at close range",or the head,or the legs.Whichever kills the kids the quickest.
There is no reason on earth to pity Israel ANY MORE.
All reasons/excuses,past OR present,are MOOT! Negated by the terrorist state of Israel itself.
They are definately now the cold blooded serial murderer!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7843307.stm

Peace,Salaam,Shalom.
mizo
February 18, 2009
11:23 AM PST
"Remember the first priority of any government is to protect their citizens." This doesn't apply to illegal state, built on occupation. First priority IS TO DEFEND YOUR HOME FROM AN OCCUPIER.
Grassroots
February 18, 2009
8:12 AM PST
ps, excuse the double-post.Too much caffeine! lol!
Grassroots
February 18, 2009
8:12 AM PST
Israel"has always extended an olive branch" to those people who UNEQUIVOCALLY accept Israeli TERMS and CONDITIONS,even if those unilateral conditions mean agreeing to having land,resources,homes,ancestry,dignity and self-respect STOLEN by those 'extending' the olive branch.
When you REALLY extend an olive branch YOU DO IT FROM THE SOUL AND HEART WITH NO CONDITIONS ATTACHED except mutual trust,honor and repsect,then both sides ADHERE to those tenets.
There is no such thing as an "Olive branch" of peace WHEN IT COMES WITH UNFAIR, BIASED,IRRATIONAL PRE-CONDITIONS.
Besides Israels version of the olive branch has always had an adage to it saying:
OR ELSE!
That's unilateral conditions set by a brutal,barbaric,moronic people,who have NO CONSCIENCE and NO SENSE OF MUTUAL and EQUAL HUMANITY.
The Israelis are not even worthy of being called honorable.They have proved since the end of World War 2 at least,that they are just double-dealing,hypocritical back-stabbers,who shame their UMBRELLA faith of Judaism and shame humanity,while pretending to be DEMOCRATIC and FREE.Maybe that's why Israel has got on'so well' with American politicians for 3-4 decades now.Because the 'VALUES' and 'PRINCIPLES' our own US Congress and White House have ALSO been covered in innocent blood,SHAME and back-stabbing.
Our Founding fathers WOULD BE ASHAMED of our present day Congress and Presidents as MANY GOOD-CONSCIENCE AMERICAN citizens are TOO.
And we wonder why 90 percent of the world hates America?
Probabaly because our Government cohorts with creatures like the Israelis.
Man!
Obama may as well 'pal around' with scum like Osama Bin Laden,as with the Israelis(same breed,same intellect). SHAMEFUL!

So much for "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN" EH,Pressie Barack Hussein Obama ?
It should have been:
"Chnage we can believe in......as long as AIPAC approve FIRST".
PATHETIC!
Grassroots
February 18, 2009
8:12 AM PST
Israel"has always extended an olive branch" to those people who UNEQUIVOCALLY accept Israeli TERMS and CONDITIONS,even if those unilateral conditions mean agreeing to having land,resources,homes,ancestry,dignity and self-respect STOLEN by those 'extending' the olive branch.
When you REALLY extend an olive branch YOU DO IT FROM THE SOUL AND HEART WITH NO CONDITIONS ATTACHED except mutual trust,honor and repsect,then both sides ADHERE to those tenets.
There is no such thing as an "Olive branch" of peace WHEN IT COMES WITH UNFAIR, BIASED,IRRATIONAL PRE-CONDITIONS.
Besides Israels version of the olive branch has always had an adage to it saying:
OR ELSE!
That's unilateral conditions set by a brutal,barbaric,moronic people,who have NO CONSCIENCE and NO SENSE OF MUTUAL and EQUAL HUMANITY.
The Israelis are not even worthy of being called honorable.They have proved since the end of World War 2 at least,that they are just double-dealing,hypocritical back-stabbers,who shame their UMBRELLA faith of Judaism and shame humanity,while pretending to be DEMOCRATIC and FREE.Maybe that's why Israel has got on'so well' with American politicians for 3-4 decades now.Because the 'VALUES' and 'PRINCIPLES' our own US Congress and White House have ALSO been covered in innocent blood,SHAME and back-stabbing.
Our Founding fathers WOULD BE ASHAMED of our present day Congress and Presidents as MANY GOOD-CONSCIENCE AMERICAN citizens are TOO.
And we wonder why 90 percent of the world hates America?
Probabaly because our Government cohorts with creatures like the Israelis.
Man!
Obama may as well 'pal around' with scum like Osama Bin Laden,as with the Israelis(same breed,same intellect). SHAMEFUL!

So much for "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN" EH,Pressie Barack Hussein Obama ?
It should have been:
"Chnage we can believe in......as long as AIPAC approve FIRST".
PATHETIC!
gottaloveit
February 18, 2009
7:52 AM PST
Midknight to take a line from your blog, "because any animal in fear become aggressive sooner or later and humans are just mammals", This is exactly my point. The Israelis from day 1 have been fighting for survival. The Israelis have become hardened over time.Remember the first priority of any government is to protect their citizens. At the same time Israel has always extended an olive branch to countries and neighbors who truly want PEACE. Sure people on this blog will give you examples of how brutal the evil Zionist are, but if you look at the big picture a little harder you will see that, sure Israel has made mistakes but they have to protect their people from countries and terrorist who want their DESTRUCTION. Now Hamas is talking about a truce. Why a truce and not PEACE. Maybe Hamas sees that they have lost some power and credibility with their own people. They need time to correct this situation so they can FIGHT Israel another day.

Here's an article that shows the disinformation that goes on out there:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/hamas-lies-about-gaza-fatalities-unmasked/
mizo
February 18, 2009
3:05 AM PST
Who is the Judge Who Judges?
Who is a Terrorist?
By MATS SVENSSON

[..."During my lifetime I have dedicated myself to this struggle of the African people. I have fought against White domination, and I have fought against Black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve. But if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die.” For Mandela, to not resist would have been synonymous with unconditional capitulation.“

Mandela had to wait until 2008 before he was removed from the USA terror list. Mandela fought the evil of the time, the oppression of the time. It took almost 50 years before the world finally rallied round him. It was also then that the world finally understood that Mandela had been a free man all along. Confined but free. A freedom that he gave to de Klerk in 1990 and to the USA in 2008. To receive that freedom one first has to want to receive it.

In Israel there are also free people. People who are prepared to give their freedom away since they are free themselves. During the last war, the New Years bombings, the occupied were bombed to pieces by the occupying power. Most Israelis backed their government and their soldiers. But not everyone. There was a shrinking group of free people, people who believe in a context with everyone’s equal worth. This group still dreams about a society where everyone is included, and for this, one is prepared to struggle.]
http://www.counterpunch.org/svensson02172009.html
midknight
February 18, 2009
12:31 AM PST
Thank You Gottaloveit,I don t think there is a just war,and I wish You could feel their frustration too, and by the way i know a woman that in the Philippines sow more than once new burned baby s being thrown in to the air and then on their way down hit with the BAIONETTA by Japanese soldiers,that does not mean that all the Japanese would do the same,we know that there is no just war,because any animal in fear become aggressive sooner or later and humans are just mammals,if we can see that and stop feeling superior all the time we may have some chances we need to stop any of war before they happen and not in a violent way. You said in the past that are now 30 years that You are looking for a way to have peace,so, why do I feel only resistance from You and I am not directly effected by all means?
Hope You had a good valentine

mizo
February 17, 2009
11:39 PM PST
What ever happened to any one in the world Jew or not to be reason for making a whole nation refugees and under occupation is BS talk.
I don't care about your back round if you are killing people in the same way, and your reason is to avoid the same tragedy and your vicims had done nothing to your tragedy in EUROPE. Under these kind of lies people from Poland , Gemaney, Moldavia, and on and on, came all the way to settel in their lands Palestine, the Palestinians weren't there or no the British own it and they gave it to us or no no no GOD gave us the land, Yes it is our land. BUT Ben Gurion disagree:
"Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-Semitism the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations' time, but for the moment there is no chance. So it's simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Our whole policy is there. Otherwise the Arabs will wipes us out".

"But how can you sleep with that prospect in mind," I broke in, "and be Prime Minister of Israel too?"

Who says I sleep? he answered simply. (The Jewish Paradox by Nahum Goldman, p. 99).